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Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:32:00 -
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So even though I love my Cal Logi it is insufficient for my Plasma Cannon needs. Mainly because I NEED a sidearm. So here are the best three suits I could think of for this setup.
1. Amar Logi - Sidearm problem solved. But a new speed problem is created.
2. Minmatar Assault - Sidearm bonus and fast but lose the equipment slots.
3. Caldari Logi - Can be speed tanked w/ shields but also loses equipment.
I guess I am ok with losing my equipment because I'll always have the calogi to fall back on. But I feel naked without a scanner and nanohives are a must. Well, thoughts? Suggestions?
PS - I am not interested in your BS that the Plasma Cannon sucks. It's the best weapon in the game and that's that.  |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:30:00 -
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Templar 514 wrote:I am going to tell you the options that you REALLY have for this (in no particular order).
1. Amarr Logi (2 r's, not 1!). You'll be slower, but you'll probably manage better tank if you prioritise your equipment like a proper logi (even a battle logi should generally run ADV-level equipment).
2. Minnie Assault. You've generally covered the trade-offs for this one.
3. GALLENTE Assault. You get a fitting bonus for hybrid weapons, which the Plasma Cannon is. The bonus also stacks with the Light Weapon Operation (LWO hereafter) skill, which is 3% CPU use reduction per level, and the PlasCan fitting bonus skill. With max skills, just ballparking it, you're cutting down CPU requirements by about 65%*- taking that 71 CPU for a STD-level PlasCan to only about 25 (!) CPU! Can you say "MAXIMUM ARMOR", or what, bro!
4. Amarr Commando. DOUBLE HERESY is here. The main reason this suit is an option is because of that awesome reload bonus. With Amarr Command Lv3, and PlasCan Rapid Reload Lv3, you shave off about 25% of your reload time. With max skills, you cut it down by 40%- nearly half! The downside is that you are required to run plated, and carry either a Compact, K/17D (R), or Allotek (R) nanohive to fulfill armor rep and ammo needs.
*With maximum skills.
Now, having covered all of the *real* options you have (PLEASE dare to be different and skip CalAssault), I would generally suggest either Amarr Logi, and eventually making that your primary suit (Amarr Logi is the best**), or going with Gallente Assault to get the fitting requirement reduction so you can stack on better tank, damage, sidearm, and equipment modules/items. Yes, I do realize that, with the exception of Minnie Assault, all of these options will probably be slower than your CalLogi suit, but they will also probably be tougher.
The one issue I can see is that AmLogi, GalAssault, and AmCommando would all require armor skill investment, which I don't know if you have. I can say, as a fellow connoisseur of the Plasma Cannon, that my preference is to run it on either Amarr Commando or a scout suit- but that'st because I want the reload bonus, or because scouts mesh well with it (fast suit+alpha damage gun=high-adrenaline awesomeness).
I do think that, considering skill bonuses, Amarr Command or Gallente Assault have the best direct benefits to the PlasCan, but Minnie Assault indirectly benefits it with the sidearm bonus, will Amarr Logi is pretty much the armor-based better battle logi version of the CalLogi, which you are already familier
**Only because I run Amarr suits in general. Also because Amarr medium frames are the most stylish dropsuits in the entire game. Style is important, you have to look your best when blapping dudes with a Plasma Cannon!
Thank you for the detailed response. A lot of good info. I had considered the Commando but I have been told time and time again that the reload bonuses don't really work well for the plasma cannon. Something about the animation takes so long the bonus doesn't really work. Now if the bonus indeed does work than Commando is a very interesting option. Plasma Cannon/shotgun combo or even, dare I say, duel Cannons!!! 
The only reason I was considering the Cal Assault is because I already have it skilled up to ADV. But you are right. I want a unique fit and the ADV Cal Logi is so damn vanilla. I feel like a nameless stormtrooper in that thing. And the Amarr Logi is the sexiest lookin' suit in the game. Bumblebee DeathMan!!!!!!
You are right about me not having the proper armor skills. My core is maxed but I only have ADV plates and repper. So the Amarr or Gallente will require a bit more SP. At this stage in the game that is OK though. I have everything I need basically. I must say though I really don't like the look of the Gallente suits. That said the fitting skill would be pretty sweet as my Electronics, Core CPU, and Cannon fitting skills are nearly maxed out.
I think right now I'm leaning Amarr Logi just because I already have a ton of proto equipment and I want to use it. But you've given me a lot to contemplate. Thanks again! |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:39:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Run camndo and duel weild plcs.
I'm truly considering it. Hey, that was a lot of fun yesterday running in the PLC squad. Let's do it again soon!!! |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:41:00 -
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It has been decided. After much thought and contemplation I am sticking with my Logi roots and going Amarr Logi. I think I've finally found the setup for my play style. Hit hard from a medium-distance (laying down splash damage and 1 shotting protos) while supporting the Slayers with reps and ammo. Sidearm for when things get hairy (proto smg + flux when applicable). |
Roofer Madness
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:42:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Templar 514 wrote:I am going to tell you the options that you REALLY have for this (in no particular order).
1. Amarr Logi (2 r's, not 1!). You'll be slower, but you'll probably manage better tank if you prioritise your equipment like a proper logi (even a battle logi should generally run ADV-level equipment).
2. Minnie Assault. You've generally covered the trade-offs for this one.
3. GALLENTE Assault. You get a fitting bonus for hybrid weapons, which the Plasma Cannon is. The bonus also stacks with the Light Weapon Operation (LWO hereafter) skill, which is 3% CPU use reduction per level, and the PlasCan fitting bonus skill. With max skills, just ballparking it, you're cutting down CPU requirements by about 65%*- taking that 71 CPU for a STD-level PlasCan to only about 25 (!) CPU! Can you say "MAXIMUM ARMOR", or what, bro!
4. Amarr Commando. DOUBLE HERESY is here. The main reason this suit is an option is because of that awesome reload bonus. With Amarr Command Lv3, and PlasCan Rapid Reload Lv3, you shave off about 25% of your reload time. With max skills, you cut it down by 40%- nearly half! The downside is that you are required to run plated, and carry either a Compact, K/17D (R), or Allotek (R) nanohive to fulfill armor rep and ammo needs.
*With maximum skills.
Now, having covered all of the *real* options you have (PLEASE dare to be different and skip CalAssault), I would generally suggest either Amarr Logi, and eventually making that your primary suit (Amarr Logi is the best**), or going with Gallente Assault to get the fitting requirement reduction so you can stack on better tank, damage, sidearm, and equipment modules/items. Yes, I do realize that, with the exception of Minnie Assault, all of these options will probably be slower than your CalLogi suit, but they will also probably be tougher.
The one issue I can see is that AmLogi, GalAssault, and AmCommando would all require armor skill investment, which I don't know if you have. I can say, as a fellow connoisseur of the Plasma Cannon, that my preference is to run it on either Amarr Commando or a scout suit- but that'st because I want the reload bonus, or because scouts mesh well with it (fast suit+alpha damage gun=high-adrenaline awesomeness).
I do think that, considering skill bonuses, Amarr Command or Gallente Assault have the best direct benefits to the PlasCan, but Minnie Assault indirectly benefits it with the sidearm bonus, will Amarr Logi is pretty much the armor-based better battle logi version of the CalLogi, which you are already familier
**Only because I run Amarr suits in general. Also because Amarr medium frames are the most stylish dropsuits in the entire game. Style is important, you have to look your best when blapping dudes with a Plasma Cannon! Thank you for the detailed response. A lot of good info. I had considered the Commando but I have been told time and time again that the reload bonuses don't really work well for the plasma cannon. Something about the animation takes so long the bonus doesn't really work. Now if the bonus indeed does work than Commando is a very interesting option. Plasma Cannon/shotgun combo or even, dare I say, duel Cannons!!! The only reason I was considering the Cal Assault is because I already have it skilled up to ADV. But you are right. I want a unique fit and the ADV Cal Logi is so damn vanilla. I feel like a nameless stormtrooper in that thing. And the Amarr Logi is the sexiest lookin' suit in the game. Bumblebee DeathMan!!!!!! You are right about me not having the proper armor skills. My core is maxed but I only have ADV plates and repper. So the Amarr or Gallente will require a bit more SP. At this stage in the game that is OK though. I have everything I need basically. I must say though I really don't like the look of the Gallente suits. That said the fitting skill would be pretty sweet as my Electronics, Core CPU, and Cannon fitting skills are nearly maxed out. I think right now I'm leaning Amarr Logi just because I already have a ton of proto equipment and I want to use it. But you've given me a lot to contemplate. Thanks again! BUMBLEBEE????? I take offense to that.
OK. What about Waspman? Is that better? lol |
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